i think you're trying too hard... just buy from someone else. 

what if you just buy from another honda dealer but continue to get your maintenance done there

crap.... we have garden snakes........

we just have worms... no snakes here, but at the zoo.....hehehehe

I hear ya, not complaining... but car brands are monopolized...  forgot to mention the Ferrari, Lambo, Bentley, Maseratti, lotus and audi are all under one dealer as well....  there goes my bargain ability to say I can get a better deal on a ferrari at the other dealer.

I hear you on sticking with a service guy you trust.  That is almost more worth it than anything else.  Though I must say I have been extremely happy with every Infiniti Dealership I have been to for service.  Its something I will definitely miss with my next vehicle.  There are two or three Ford dealerships in the area so hopefully one of them has a service department that is worth a damn.  In fact, that brings up a good point... that if you have options when buying a vehicle it would be a good idea to introduce yourself to the service manager and see where it goes from there.  I actually did this when I had my R32.  It was the first AWD VW and it was low production so many dealerships didn't have experience with them.  I bought the car in Asheville NC where I loved the dealership.  They also did Lotus Porsche and Audi so they had a great service department. Unfortunately that was when I was in school in Savannah.  When I went to the service desk at Vaden VW I asked a simple question.  What is the service interval on the fluid in the rear diff.  Audi had the same Haldex awd system in the TT and their interval was slightly shorter than VW's recommendation so I was fishing to see what he would say.  He is totally caught off guard and in a degrading tone tries to tell me its a sealed transmission like I don't know what I'm talking about.  I give him a blank stare and says your never suppose to change it, your only suppose to check it every 20k.  I couldn't help but laugh a bit and tell him his service department would never be laying a hand on my vehicle.  This was the service manager, the one who is suppose to be the leader!?  I ended up driving over an hour to Charleston, SC to have my car serviced.  The second the guy comes out to do an inspection and check me in he and says... wow, I can't wait to see a turbo on one of these.  That is when I knew the two hour commute was worth it every time.