dang, that sounds like you had to go through a lot...  too bad, the car seemed to have some promise... heck I saw a white XF-R the other day and thought is was a nice looking car... subtle changes on the R model to let you know its different but not too much...

dang... just too bad to hear, but glad it worked out for you....

so what you got going on next?


 

totally forgot about your F and i even posted in that thread... guess you need to post up more on your "new" F.

so you think the issues with Jag are Tata based?  I know someone with a 2006 XJR and they love it, runs well, no problems at all.  So you think Jag has sunk back down?

thats too bad if so....

Haha. No worry! The issues are partially Tata based, but also stem largely from FoMoCo. The engine, chassis, etc from my understanding were designed and sourced from Ford. Jaguar L.R. handled assembly, which they proved they can actually do even worse at than ford. (I should not have the dealer call me and ask why the screws for the sunroof assembly of my $70k car are literally rolling around in the headliner).

Between ford's lack of truee quality assurance, and jaguar's f**k you attitude, you really end up with a disaster of a product. Its particularly flattering when the dealer informs you they are giving you a loaner as a COURTESY from the dealer, and not from Jaguar. Jaguar does not require dealers to maintain loaner fleets, nor do they reimburse the dealer for loaner costs after something like 2 days. The car wasn't just bad, the service was too.
It took almost 2 months from the date of vehicle surrender, to the time when I received the payoff from Jaguar. This put me in a precarious financial situation. My losses were significant after attorney and Jaguar nickel and diming me to the last cent. Also, since a lemon return doesntt count as a "trade in credit", I had to pay taxes on the full price of the IS-F rather than paying the tax on the delta between tthe price of the old vehicle and the new (so, instead of paying literally nothing, I had to pay something to the tune of 4k in taxes on the F.)

In the end, I am glad it's over. During the process it was almost my undoing, however. Jaguar is nothing short of a callous, faceless company who is out to defraud consumers (most, if not all issues with my vehicle are known to internal jaguar staff, but not made public data or acknowledged by dealers).

Any vehicle based on the new 5L supercharger w/ direct injection (XF-s, xf-r, xk-s/r, range rover supercharged, jaguar xj supercharged) suffer from the "rough idle" issue. I have had this verbally communicated to me by multiple techs, and they state that jaguar L.R. refuse to comment on the "issue" and that the engines are within "normal operating parameters". This is indeed truthful, if you consider "normal operating parameters" to INCLUDE a completely unacceptably rough idle, with misfires. Apparently jaguar think that's just fine.

Oh yeah, if you know anyone sporting a new XJ with the rear window shade, give it a little manual pull. They will have to take it to the dealer, who will have to remove the whole headliner, to make it operational again.