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Have a lot to say about the car but no time to type it. Have only had it since Thursday of last week so haven't had a whole lot of time with it. At first I was honestly felt kind of disappointed, but it's starting to grow on me.
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Here are some interior night pics, with more to come (pics, review, etc.. ) as time permits...
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Nice Oz, I think the FX is nicer than the Lexus. I'd rather have the FX also.
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the first pic actually makes the hood look wider than the rest of the car... not very flattering, but this car definitely looks better in person. A manly vehicle compared to the RX for sure.
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Quote from: joeBB on April 05, 2010, 03:50:58 AM
Nice Oz, I think the FX is nicer than the Lexus. I'd rather have the FX also.
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the first pic actually makes the hood look wider than the rest of the car... not very flattering, but this car definitely looks better in person. A manly vehicle compared to the RX for sure.
Agreed.. I think the FX MIGHT actually be slightly wider in the front, body wise, than the rest of the car.. i'll have to see how far away i have to stand back before I can take a picture of the front and still get some of the sides..
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Oh yes, the FX is much nicer. Do you feel disappointed power wise is that what you mean?
BTW, what's up with so many poor shots of the interior lights? LOL What about the engine, trunk, rear passenger space, that's more interesting. Didn't like the blue/purple rings everywhere, though, looks cheesy neon like to me, but I'll hold a final judgment on that.
BTW, all cars nowadays are wider in the front than in the back, including the G, the M and the FX, so I don't know what your on about. Measure the the hood of the M and try to compare the width with the whole trunk width you'll see what happens. The IS-F is the same too, it's good for aero that way, so that's why they do it. Only vans I think do not care for that, because they put a premium on passenger space. Even the Sequoia is a wee bit wider in the front, you can see more clearly if you can view it from above.
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interesting RH... I did NOT know that!
as for the gauge panels... its a personal preference. I hated the yellow gauges in the old Ms, just like I'm not a huge fan of the yellow-red -ness of BMW gauge clusters.
And I'm with you... its nice to have some power, but I dont know that you can really miss 400+ hp all the time... i'm stuck in traffic too much to care.
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wow, nice man.... more feedback on the FX. The only thing that gets me on the FX is the front chin.... looks like it has major over bite... if they made a front lip spoiler that pushes out the front, I think that may make it sweet. From the side profile the front chin - kills me.
but the is a nice lookin ride...
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Quote from: Rippling Hurst on April 05, 2010, 10:20:37 AM
Oh yes, the FX is much nicer. Do you feel disappointed power wise is that what you mean?
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I am still spoilt by the lexus. Even though it was a lowly IS, the interior somehow felt more substantial and well built. The Infiniti is nice to look at on the inside, and materials are better than they were in the M, but still somehow lagging behind Lexus. I am also already experiencing the notorious "wood trim peel issue" (the wood trim on the doors actually starts to peel off..... ). Warranty, though.
Power - not disappointed. More is always better, but the power is actually quite nice. I wish the 5.6L had made it into the FX, though. The transmission is what's lacking. I was really spoiled by the -F transmission, and the Infiniti not-so-quick-shifting 7 speed kind of disappoints me.
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BTW, what's up with so many poor shots of the interior lights? LOL What about the engine, trunk, rear passenger space, that's more interesting. Didn't like the blue/purple rings everywhere, though, looks cheesy neon like to me, but I'll hold a final judgment on that.
I haven't had any time at all during the day to take pictures, so I decided to take some night shots. They are all actually different if you look, i was basically cycling through the arsenal of switches (one has LDP, one has DCA, one has cruise, etc)..
The engine is COMPLETELY covered. I'm actually not sure how the car propels itself forward based on how it looks under the hood (all plastic.. more than the -F, even).
Rear passenger space and "cargo" space leave a bit to be desired. It's smaller than the previous gen FX in cargo space, amazingly. The difference is noticable from what i remember of my old FX; although the new FX does have some really neat cargo organizers built in (will do pics at some point
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I like the purple/blue rings. They are a little overstated, but so is the rest of the car. It's kind of Infiniti as a brand, I think.
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BTW, all cars nowadays are wider in the front than in the back, including the G, the M and the FX, so I don't know what your on about. Measure the the hood of the M and try to compare the width with the whole trunk width you'll see what happens. The IS-F is the same too, it's good for aero that way, so that's why they do it. Only vans I think do not care for that, because they put a premium on passenger space. Even the Sequoia is a wee bit wider in the front, you can see more clearly if you can view it from above.
Didn't know that. The FX still LOOKS wider in the front, though.
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And I'm with you... its nice to have some power, but I dont know that you can really miss 400+ hp all the time... i'm stuck in traffic too much to care.
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It's okay at cruising speeds, but borderline unmanageable for a smooth start in manual mode. 1st gear is REALLY REALLY short, too, so in manual mode amidst all the bucking, 1st gear is gone in a flash and you can easily SLAM into the rev limiter.
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wow, nice man.... more feedback on the FX. The only thing that gets me on the FX is the front chin.... looks like it has major over bite... if they made a front lip spoiler that pushes out the front, I think that may make it sweet. From the side profile the front chin - kills me.
but the is a nice lookin ride...
Totally agree on the frontend. I am still trying to fall in love with it, but it is redeeming itself with its overall driveability.
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Initially I felt the car was "slow"... but the more i've been driving it, the more i've realized how quick it actually is. The lexus was quicker, obviously, but had a different way of delivering the power. It 'felt' faster.
The FX, due to its sheer size and weight, and the (unfortunate) masking of the V8 and the exhaust just seems like it's really not doing a lot of work; then I realize that i'm doing 80+ in a heartbeat.
Given the higher center of gravity than the -F, i can't quite corner as aggressively.. but damn close. It almost feels like you are defying the laws of physics. It can go into and come out of a turn with amazing precision. There's a LITTLE body roll, but not really. The CDC (suspension) is awesome in both Auto and Sport mode.
Oddly enough, I personally think I can pull the FX out of (but not into!) some corners better than the -F. The -F being RWD with no mechanical LSD. The FX having the AWD+RAS advantage. This could be my imagination though.
The technology overall is pretty cool (LDW/LDP/FCW/IBA/etc), along with the music box.. but i am amazingly disappointed in the stereo. It sounds like, well, crap. I don't even think it supports 5.1 like the old FX did(?); and i know the M and -F did. The -F had a great sound system, the M's was mediocre, and the FX's is just nothing short of pathetic. The old FX system actually sounded better, I think.
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agreed on the infiniti 7spd... its obvious they went for acceleration with this transmission. It jumps every so often, and it doesnt have the best cruising rpms... but it loves full throttle in DS mode, and so do I. But I miss my paddle shifters and and manu-shifting is not responsive and really just gimmicky. It is a nice way to prevent the transmission jumping around on the highway though when you'd rather it just stay put in 7th.
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Oh.. that's my other gripe. I came to LOVE the -F's gear position indicator. Even in normal (D) mode, it showed the current gear. I wish the FX did that. In "DS" mode it seems that it never shifts above 5th gear, but I can't tell for sure without bumping up/down a gear to see what gear it (seemingly) is in....
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yeah it was pretty easy on the 5AT because you could keep track, but with the 7AT, who knows
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Sticking with the theme of the transmission, I am actually really really impressed at how smoothly it shifts in auto mode (well, manual mode too; just SLOW!)... without watching the tach, I actually can't tell (feel) when the transmission is shifting most of the time. That was NOT the case with the 5AT in my M45. It was definitely noticeable between shifts.
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Quote from: oztiks on April 05, 2010, 08:57:52 PM
Re Nicer:
I am still spoilt by the lexus. Even though it was a lowly IS, the interior somehow felt more substantial and well built. The Infiniti is nice to look at on the inside, and materials are better than they were in the M, but still somehow lagging behind Lexus. I am also already experiencing the notorious "wood trim peel issue" (the wood trim on the doors actually starts to peel off..... ). Warranty, though.
Oh, I didn't expect that. That's surprising.
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Power - not disappointed. More is always better, but the power is actually quite nice. I wish the 5.6L had made it into the FX, though. The transmission is what's lacking. I was really spoiled by the -F transmission, and the Infiniti not-so-quick-shifting 7 speed kind of disappoints me.
That's disappointing.
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Keep in mind, that's part of what the FX
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It's okay at cruising speeds, but borderline unmanageable for a smooth start in manual mode. 1st gear is REALLY REALLY short, too, so in manual mode amidst all the bucking, 1st gear is gone in a flash and you can easily SLAM into the rev limiter.
I see a lot of such complains on the Sequoia too. It's really sensitive, but I don't see this is as a problem. You just have to have sensitive feet too, and it's good to feel the seat of the pants feel when you want power.
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Totally agree on the frontend. I am still trying to fall in love with it, but it is redeeming itself with its overall driveability.
I love that front end. I'm just not convinced it matches the car overall that makes me think the previous gen. is still superior. Catfish? No way. I didn't even know what a catfish looked like when people claimed "catfish!". But the front end by itself, it's anime like, reminds me of what I used to like as a kid. Wide and mean, it's the anti-RX. I'm not convincing, I know, but I'm way past that point.
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The FX, due to its sheer size and weight, and the (unfortunate) masking of the V8 and the exhaust just seems like it's really not doing a lot of work; then I realize that i'm doing 80+ in a heartbeat.
Given the higher center of gravity than the -F, i can't quite corner as aggressively.. but damn close. It almost feels like you are defying the laws of physics. It can go into and come out of a turn with amazing precision. There's a LITTLE body roll, but not really. The CDC (suspension) is awesome in both Auto and Sport mode.
Oddly enough, I personally think I can pull the FX out of (but not into!) some corners better than the -F. The -F being RWD with no mechanical LSD. The FX having the AWD+RAS advantage. This could be my imagination though.
Infiniti's AWD is a great boost of confidence, you can just throw the car into turns like crazy, nothing will happen. I will never forget J. Clarkson violently tossing an R34 amazed at how it felt easily recoverable no matter what, and that's true up to a point of the FX too, I feel the same with mine. Precise steering helps in that area too, you feel the car will do what's told, fast, no kickbacks, etc. I suspect the The -F might be too powerful for it's own drivability, no way the FX is faster, but I believe you when you say it feels comparable.
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Quote from: oztiks on April 05, 2010, 10:21:18 PM
Oh.. that's my other gripe. I came to LOVE the -F's gear position indicator. Even in normal (D) mode, it showed the current gear. I wish the FX did that. In "DS" mode it seems that it never shifts above 5th gear, but I can't tell for sure without bumping up/down a gear to see what gear it (seemingly) is in....
Yes, that would be cool to have. I wonder if one can intercept can bus messages and display that on a 2.5" round toshiba lcd mounted somewhere.
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Quote from: Rippling Hurst on April 06, 2010, 12:18:16 AM
Yes, that would be cool to have. I wonder if one can intercept can bus messages and display that on a 2.5" round toshiba lcd mounted somewhere.
I wish it could be pulled from the TCU/ECU over OBDII, but I have yet to see that..
Hmm.....
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