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The Artisan Twin turbo kit transforms your IS-f into a super car. With an additional 150whp this car truly accelerates with the best of them. With Sub 12 sec quarter mile times and top speeds inching close to the coveted 200mph mark, you will be in a crowd with the elite. The unique installation position of the turbochargers provides an exhaust note that rivals that of V12 cars everywhere. Please watch the YouTube video below of one on the dyno.
The twin turbo kit is sold as an installed option only. The price listed includes all labor and transportation costs* associated with the install. Typical installation takes 10 business days. Note transportation time is not included in this time frame.
Turbo kit includes:
Twin GTK turbos
Twin 38mm wastegates
Twin intercoolers
T304 polished stainless feeds pipes
T304 polished intercooler pipes
Modified fuel system
Modified ignition system
Artisan proprietary ecu reflash
Retain Lexus catalytic convertors
Artisan 3 ply couples
Artisan stainless hose clamps
Installation
Before and after dyno tuning
*Please note: Price includes open transportation; enclosed transportation will be an additional $1500.00.
http://www.turbochargers.com/store/product_info.php/products_id/2148?osCsid=828d37f1aff4e4e88fa186815d7ba107
http://lexusenthusiast.com/2008/10/31/video-of-artisans-twin-turbo-lexus-is-f/
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I was interested until the second pic. Remote mounted turbos... Not a fan, especially with oil cooled turbos. What exactly are they using for tuning too?
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From what I understand, the rear mounted turbos are the only 'practical' option on the car due to the lack of room up front.
Not sure what you mean by 'using for tuning too'?
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What are they using to tune the car. Software, etc... "Artisan proprietary ecu reflash," what does that include? If they're just adjusting A/F trim tables, ehhh...
And I've never seen a rear mounted turbo kit that was really that great in the long run.
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How much this would be? 16K too (like on the GTR)?
Didn't sound like a v12 at all. Is it really remote mounted all the way back there? Is there still air speed left all the way back there (as much as right there at the header? Didn't even know that was possible. What is that black box in the middle of the picture no. 2?
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Rear mounted turbos sound like spin toys.
The turbos are the last things right in front of the exhaust tips in most cases, replacing the mufflers, so all you hear is the turbo spool over the sound of the actual car exhaust. Really only hear the engine at idle or letting off the throttle. Its a pretty ridiculous sound.
Check out Squires Turbo Systems. Pretty much the only kit they make. Saves them the cost of designing and creating manifolds, etc... so they can just do some mandrel bent pipes, turbo, etc... I've seen several of their kits, mostly poor in terms of fitment or reliability. Most people buy them because they're cheap. Easy to sell for less when you're not doing manifolds.
And that black box, lol. If that's what I think it is, that's a separate oil tank for the turbos. I don't see any lines running up to the engine bay and it looks like it feeds to the turbo. Sure hope there's a pump running that, and it runs for at least 30-60 seconds after the car shuts down, or else you'll see some coked ball bearings in the future.
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I wonder if people will have fitment issues here. Look how tight the clearance is between the wheel and the intake piping.
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It's all done in house only, at their shop (as mentioned); i'm sure there would be fitment issues for some cars although I believe the underbody in this picture is the 1st kit they did.
Clublexus has
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Questions I have:
1.) What happens when water enters here (1)
2.) Where is this piping going? (2)
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houstonT 03-13-09 03:01 PM
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1. They plan to fab for the street aluminum shields so that the turbo's and area under the car there are protected. In addition, water on the outside of the turbo housing should not make any difference.
2. That looks like the piping that goes to the wastegate.
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fleadog99, just read up on how a turbo works and you can figure it out....it's rather simple if you know the properties of a turbo set-up. there's just a ton more piping because it's and exhaust mount turbo set-up (which i think its retarded...).
oh and water should not effect that at all....it's called an AIR filter, thus only air is suctioned out...everything else stays out; dirt, water, dust...
i'm going to drive up to them one time and get them to do a custom twin turbo on my 250
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Actually water can get through and cause a thing called hydrolock. Basically everything going to hell because of water. Look it up. It has been an issue with some intakes being to low to the ground on certain vehicles. Maybe I'm being to pessimistic. Regardless, I want the kit. Good luck bro
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I can testify that low intakes, especially in the Houston area, can cause damage to engines. I had a Ford Taurus that had the air intake in the wheel well. I went into some rather high water and was turning around. When I bakced up the water was pushed up in the wheel well and went into the intake, hydrolocking the engine and bending a rod. Ruined that engine. If I had the twin turbos installed I sure would not drive the car any day it rained.
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What are they using to tune the car. Software, etc... "Artisan proprietary ecu reflash," what does that include? If they're just adjusting A/F trim tables, ehhh...
And I've never seen a rear mounted turbo kit that was really that great in the long run.
They don't really say, they aren't terribly upfront in a public facing manner (which is not helping them at all).
I am curious though - what do you mean by 'in the long run' or the overall gains(200HP seems decent to me), or eliability/longevity/etc?
Quote from: Rippling Hurst on April 13, 2009, 10:28:24 PM
How much this would be? 16K too (like on the GTR)?
$15K from Artisan. I've gotten a quote for a few K less from elsewhere.
Agreed on the sound, though. I am not fond of it in the least. I don't like the sound of
most
turbos, personally. I think i'd rather hear the whine of a supercharger.
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Yeah, the clearance is not right, it should be sorted. And yeah the oil for the turbos must be pumped after the ign is off, no question about that!
The water/mud problem could perhaps solved with grease, with those K&N filters for off road Polaris ATVs/Rangers?
Those are what hell said, toy whine. They're coming from the wrong place, it sounds strange.
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I was talking more to long term reliability and effectiveness of the kit Oz.
To your questions, if enough water enters the turbo, you get hydrolock because it goes right into your intake. A little bit of water mist doesn't hurt anything, but enough water, causes major damage. Water doesn't compress ignite, like gas, its more like coolant and you can hydrolock and bend a rod.
#2, that's the outlet part of the turbo and that pipe runs ALL the way back to the front of your vehicle where it hits the intercooler and finally back to your intake.
Problems with rear mount turbos.
* Either have to run oil lines back, or you have a secondary oil system that requires its own pump system and cooler.
* LOTS of piping required. Can cause additional fitment problems.
* Air filters are exposed and down below the rear bumper. Filters get ridiculously dirty on a regular basis. They need to be cleaned and replaced often.
* Lag, lag, lag. Farther the turbo is away from the exhaust manifold, the longer it takes for your throttle input to affect turbo spool. They try to offset with smaller turbos, ultimately limiting the potential of the kit.
* Ridiculous turbo spool sound.
I'll be honest with you, even though it looks tight, I think they could manage a more traditional TT kit up closer to the engine bay. Custom headers, place the turbos where the cats are, could work. I don't know why somebody hasn't tryed a CSC yet. Could probably work something out where the intake is. But ultimately, not every car is mod friendly.
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and you remember what the engine bay looked like right? lol
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Hennesey (Tuned SRT8 Grand Cherokee, blah blah blah) got one of the 1st IS-F's. They later auctioned it on ebay. I asked them why they were getting rid of it - they said a) they were too busy b) "there wasn't enough room to do anything" (turbo/SC).
The engine is almost literally shoehorned into the car....
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Like I said, some cars are a lost cause... er, not mod friendly.
And Hennessey? Be glad they didn't do anything. They blow more engines than a fluffer!
So who do you blame? Yamaha for the big engine design? Or Toyota for not being able to make a better engine themselves and outsourcing? The IS-F is turning into the new Taurus SHO, even with the Yamaha engine. :-P
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