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Car mag reviewers irritate me sometimes.
« on: July 29, 2008, 12:53:49 PM »

Okay, your first impulse is to say they irritate me because I don't agree with them on something. That's true, but it goes beyond that.

One of the mags (Motor Trend, I think) just completed a long-term evaluation of a Lexus LS460. They liked most things about the car, but came back with the old, tired complaint that the suspension was too "floaty" and "soft". Gimme a break.

First, the kids who "evaluate" these vehicles are almost always strongly biased toward sports cars. They love anything that has a flinty ride, makes lots of noise, and generates tons of tire smoke. The things they value most are things that aren't really practical in day-to-day driving ... skid-pad numbers, how fast the car can screech through a slalom, quarter-mile times, etc. I believe that 99.9% of people never drive on a track, and while they enjoy engine performance and like a car that they feel handles well, they aren't going to be pushing the vehicle to anywhere near its absolute limits.

Second, the mag writers make the mistake of applying the above standard to all cars. That means that cars that don't measure up to sports car standards will invariably get lower ratings. But, for cryin' out loud, the LS460 isn't a sports car, doesn't want to be a sports car, and its OWNERS don't want it to be a sports car!

All I want is for cars of a given type to be evaluated in the context of their type. That is, evaluate the LS460 against other luxury sedans, not Mazda Miatas and Corvette Z06's. I've driven floaty cars, and the LS460 isn't one of them. Is it floaty compared to a Porsche Boxster? Hell, yes. Does that make it sub-standard in some way? Hell, no. Luxury cars are not SUPPOSED to ride like Boxsters, and if they did, their owners would be very unhappy. I know I would be.

The trouble is, there are people who will read this crap and not realize their leanings, and will come away thinking the LS is a boat. An interesting point, though, is they admitted at the end that the LS was the car that always got chosen when someone wanted a serene ride or went on a long-distance run.

(Is the above a rant?  Grin)
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Re: Car mag reviewers irritate me sometimes.
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 02:40:34 PM »

Think nothing of it, you won't have it long anway.   Grin
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Re: Car mag reviewers irritate me sometimes.
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 02:53:04 PM »

Quote from: joeBB on July 29, 2008, 02:40:34 PM
Think nothing of it, you won't have it long anway.   Grin

Don't count on it ... this one's a keeper!  Grin
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Re: Car mag reviewers irritate me sometimes.
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2008, 03:05:51 PM »

You should keep it.  Thats quite a car.   Wink
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Re: Car mag reviewers irritate me sometimes.
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2008, 03:47:26 PM »

What bothers me most about car mag reviews is that they're lazy. I mean bike mags, when they evaluate bikes, they at least play with tire pressure, when they do not try another brand entirely.  And then they complain say about road noise, fishtailing the rear, etc.  Everybody knows that the tires are hugely important for the handling and ride quality - summer tires are different from all weather run flats, etc...
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Re: Car mag reviewers irritate me sometimes.
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2008, 07:36:57 PM »

This weeks Car & Driver has a write-up on the new (refresh) RL... Just finished it. Nothing too insightful. I still can't understand why they made it's gas mileage even worse? 
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Re: Car mag reviewers irritate me sometimes.
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2008, 11:32:06 PM »

automobile is better than motor trend in realistic evaluation of cars for their intended purpose.  They have been giving family sedans, minivans, etc pretty glowing reviews for meeting the cars intended expectations.
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Re: Car mag reviewers irritate me sometimes.
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 03:18:41 PM »

Quote from: navydoc333 on July 29, 2008, 07:36:57 PM
This weeks Car & Driver has a write-up on the new (refresh) RL... Just finished it. Nothing too insightful. I still can't understand why they made it's gas mileage even worse? 


The 3.7-liter was a response to customer complaints that the car was underpowered compared to its competition. Unfortunately, the new engine added only 10 hp, although it did increase the torque a bit more.

And more unfortunately than that, the gas mileage rating for the 3.7 is worse than the 3.5 it replaced, at a time when everyone is all in a panic about gas prices. That's kinda odd, given Honda's expertise in the engine/economy arena, and considering how other mfr's are building engines with comparable output with better mileage. Honda - get on the ball!
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Re: Car mag reviewers irritate me sometimes.
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2008, 10:18:00 PM »

Is it still a 5SPD AT?
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Re: Car mag reviewers irritate me sometimes.
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 10:50:36 PM »

I only subscribe bike mags, although at the moment I have not any.  I can't stand american car mags.  I buy the British ones, if only for the amazing detailed and big pictures.  CAR, Top Gear, etc.   Why can't American mags be that big and full of pictures and you know, go straight to the point and be funny at the same time?  My .02cents only.

Sure, they don't review Impalas and Chargers, but it's not like I'd buy these cars anyway.  I'm waiting for their first review of the Infinitis, if they already did, I missed!
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